We will have a very simple migration procedure in place for the first release. So that is a definite yes!

After that release, we are going to try out best to have a migration path. As the projects might start to significantly differ it might become more difficult later on. But we are keeping the migrateability part of each release roadmap.

--Holger

Great! Thanks.

Just a side note:

One of my friends was running and older version of Redmine (pre-1.0) and he was able to "upgrade" to ChiliProject by switching to our git repository and running the database migrations. So I'm thinking a upgrade/migration script isn't going to be that difficult right now (though maintaining it over time will become harder).

Eric Davis

Hi,

Now I am running Redmine 1.1.1 + plugins CodeReview and DocPu. Also, I made some changes in PDF generation so as to be able to generate PDFs in Cyrillic (Bulgarian). I used a patch created by Russian coders and I suspect that Chinese PDF generation is sacrifice in this patch. So:

1. PDF. Redmine does not handle PDFs in Cyrillic. What are your plans about this issue?
2. Plugins. Will the Redmine plugins be compatible with ChilliProject? especially CodeReview and DocPu. Do the maintainers of these plugins know about ChilliProject?
3. Will there be migration path from Redmine 1.1.1?
4. What is in the ChilliProject roadmap?
5. Will the Redmine themes be compatible with ChilliProject? If I switch to ChilliProject I would like its look to be almost unchanged, so as to not disturb the users.

I do not plan to move to ChilliProject by now. Why to do this, if Redmine works well for me and another 12 people. But I want to use live project, not stagnating one so if Redmine slows down in the future I would like to move here.

Regards,
Ivan

Ivan: I think you can expect that compability between Redmine and ChilliProject (migration, plugins, themes) will be there for the first release, but the plan is of course to make ChilliProject something else than Redmine. Plugin devs will most likely have to choose if they support just one of them, or both, by making sure their plugins work.

It will of course be two separate projects after a while.

Stefan Hållén wrote:

Plugin devs will most likely have to choose if they support just one of them, or both, by making sure their plugins work.

I also want to write a small compatibility layer so some plugins can be added to ChiliProject without modification. Since I'm getting close to 100 plugins for Redmine, this would save me a bunch of time and I think it would be useful to others too.

Eric Davis

Ivan Cenov wrote:

Hi,

Now I am running Redmine 1.1.1 + plugins CodeReview and DocPu. Also, I made some changes in PDF generation so as to be able to generate PDFs in Cyrillic (Bulgarian). I used a patch created by Russian coders and I suspect that Chinese PDF generation is sacrifice in this patch. So:

1. PDF. Redmine does not handle PDFs in Cyrillic. What are your plans about this issue?

I don't have any plans with PDFs myself. The PDF library used by Redmine isn't easy to use and there was talk about moving to a different one about a year ago (switching from rfpdf to prawn). From what I understand the newer one had full UTF support but it wasn't fully tested.

Basically: I'm open to any fixes for the PDF generation if someone can help and the fixes don't break something else.

1. Plugins. Will the Redmine plugins be compatible with ChilliProject? especially CodeReview and DocPu. Do the maintainers of these plugins know about ChilliProject?

We will have some compatibility and some way to migrate to ChiliProject. Making plugins easy to build/use/maintain are an important goal for me personally.

1. Will there be migration path from Redmine 1.1.1?

I am still reviewing the code that's included in Redmine so see what we want to include in ChiliProject. I'm pretty sure that we will have a migration path for the 1.0 series of Redmine and possibly 1.1 too.

1. What is in the ChilliProject roadmap?

The roadmap is still open. We are collecting ideas for 1.1.0 (#117) and 2.0.0 (#118) right now.

1. Will the Redmine themes be compatible with ChilliProject? If I switch to ChilliProject I would like its look to be almost unchanged, so as to not disturb the users.

Yes.

Eric Davis

Hi, about PDF. I found an instruction how to enable Cyrillic PDF at http://groups.google.com/group/redmine2ru/browse_thread/thread/1fa3f557643472bb. It is in Russian language. From this

< require 'rfpdf/chinese'
-- 

> #require 'rfpdf/chinese'

I'm sorry I don't understand Ruby, I am a C language firmware programmer. So my help last months was in translations to Bulgarian language only. I consider to participate with translation in ChilliProject too, but let this be after first release (many-many work for a living just now). Nevertheless I could/would share my ideas that come in my mind to both ChilliProject and Redmine. Sharing ideas is the best.

About CodeReview. This is a very important plugin and I propose to be incorporated into the core.

About SCM, diffs. Redmine is capable to make diff of text files, ChilliProject is too obviously. It would be great if it is possible to make diffs of MS Word, MS Excel, Open Office documents. This is implemented by scripts in TortoiseSVN, the MS Windows Subversion visual client.

I spend most of my weekend installing Redmine 1.2, I saw Chiliproject while I was searching for plugins! I feel the development pace is faster here.

Now my Q is:

Is there a migration utility and how to which will help me to migrate from Redmine 1.2 to Chiliproject 2.0 (assuming that 2.0 will be stable very soon)? If not, any idea when can we expect it will help?

K P:

There is a wiki page we have created for how to Migrate From Redmine. It should work fine for Redmine 1.2 to ChiliProject 2.0.0 once the final 2.0.0 is out.

Eric Davis

Thanks Eric, this is great news. I did see the page you mentioned, but was not sure if that will work for 1.2. Thanks for your quick response!

In fact I came to know Chiliproject from one of your plugin page ;-)

Another Q - will the classic template of Redmin 1.2 work on Chiliproject 2.0?

K P wrote:

Another Q - will the classic template of Redmin 1.2 work on Chiliproject 2.0?

We still have all Redmine themes in ChiliProject, so it should work correctly.